tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494024784324680939.post2958548830449509012..comments2024-02-25T02:53:17.882-08:00Comments on The Goalie's Anxiety: Peter Handke's "The Great Fall": Thoughts From BoiseScott Abbotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01782322856303315648noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494024784324680939.post-46189280637217282262012-01-14T12:33:56.938-08:002012-01-14T12:33:56.938-08:00i think that "shame" was a middle class ...i think that "shame" was a middle class projection on the part of my beloved freud, all those girls loving their omphalos? proud of itself! for the monkey with its forelimbs that were designed to clamber up and down trees, the savannahs afforded the possibility to hunt prey, protein! so running on two legs was a far better means of locomotion than how, say any kind of Chimp can proceed - just a guess that a Chimp can't scamper faster than we can run. Altough the monkey troupes I saw in the ancient cities in Sri Lanka - Annaratmapura - are quite fleet.SUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494024784324680939.post-90828181333416578372012-01-14T12:10:21.148-08:002012-01-14T12:10:21.148-08:00you remind me of that footnote in das unbehagen in...you remind me of that footnote in das unbehagen in der kultur in which freud figures that our evolutionary step up from four to two legs was the fateful beginning of civilization because then we were ashamed of our newly visible genitals.Scott Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01782322856303315648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494024784324680939.post-24601855021270603462012-01-14T12:07:20.954-08:002012-01-14T12:07:20.954-08:00This novel has very relaxed stretches, compared to...This novel has very relaxed stretches, compared to the early and earlier ones. If you mean "civilization and its discontents" - of course we live entirely unnatural lives, say, as compared to my preferred Hunter-Gatherers who only needed to work 20 hours a week, were/ are of far better stature and in better all around health.SUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494024784324680939.post-58795931030087834152012-01-14T10:33:04.549-08:002012-01-14T10:33:04.549-08:00i don't mean to melt us all together; but i...i don't mean to melt us all together; but i'm drawn to the tensions in this novel and peter's other work because i feel them too.Scott Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01782322856303315648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494024784324680939.post-76854770788149218222012-01-14T10:29:45.894-08:002012-01-14T10:29:45.894-08:00No, it's the tension of being Handke! Not that...No, it's the tension of being Handke! Not that you can't find what called a "psychotic core" in the great majority of humans, perhaps also in all the great apes! but that was one reason why I posted the tough-guy Julian Bielicki's piece on the source of violent irruptions, but then Bielicki copped out, and refused to elaborate on the Handke case. Not everyone has thrice the impulse to rum amok, or has Handke's actual irruptions.SUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494024784324680939.post-69726297252361808812012-01-14T10:22:50.160-08:002012-01-14T10:22:50.160-08:00But it's the tension of being human; cure him ...But it's the tension of being human; cure him (or me or you) and then we'd just lay around squeezing women or lemons.Scott Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01782322856303315648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494024784324680939.post-15047248526958225552012-01-14T10:04:49.574-08:002012-01-14T10:04:49.574-08:00There are lot's of good "PsychoPhysikers&...There are lot's of good "PsychoPhysikers" in Paris for sure'<br />who could cure him of that tension - if he really wanted to be!SUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494024784324680939.post-78204179134099992302012-01-14T10:04:29.828-08:002012-01-14T10:04:29.828-08:00There are lot's of good "PsychoPhysikers&...There are lot's of good "PsychoPhysikers" in Paris for sure'<br />who could cure him of that tension - if he really wanted to be!SUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494024784324680939.post-83453518856762077952012-01-14T09:33:04.032-08:002012-01-14T09:33:04.032-08:00in that case i would suggest that the actor just s...in that case i would suggest that the actor just stay in bed and loll around with one of his squeezes, he seems very comfy there until the lightning struck!SUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494024784324680939.post-1969830759641842812012-01-14T09:08:56.361-08:002012-01-14T09:08:56.361-08:00the tension that comes with trying to stay upright...the tension that comes with trying to stay upright is much like the tension of trying not to run amok.Scott Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01782322856303315648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494024784324680939.post-42031092360558526552012-01-13T21:02:08.954-08:002012-01-13T21:02:08.954-08:00I ran both our comments on DER GROSSE FALL through...I ran both our comments on DER GROSSE FALL through the brain once more. I note Scott's accurate assessment that there is a lot about standing up and falling, which somehow doesn't mean much to me however as I read the book - I only sense the possibility of an amoke explosion!; and his noting of narrative disruptions;<br />where I can't tell whether some of what I regard as gaucheries or happy go lucky stitching are part of that or not.<br /><br /> What the book leaves me with / in right now, until the forthcoming third reading, or forever, is in a state of uncertainty! Which I may be in in other respects as well, thus it evokes that. Handke writes projection<br />screens, among other things he does simultaneously, certainly even after just two readings, and more of<br />certain sections, many of them have etched themselves into my being, also those sections where he evidently<br />takes such absolute joy in sheer writing. Maybe Handke has found<br />or is in the process of finding new ways of being ambiguous.SUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494024784324680939.post-60387684342158011052012-01-13T12:09:43.943-08:002012-01-13T12:09:43.943-08:00This is the first time I see Scott's post from...This is the first time I see Scott's post from Idaho, subsequent to his traipsing around the Oregon tide pools, and his agreement with me on the matter of the levels<br />of experience that DER GROSSE FALL introduces. What might Handke, the author's first notion for this book have been? There probably notes about it in his notebook, which we won't see while either Scott or I are alive.<br />Perhaps it was, "I've never had an actor as a lead! Hm, that affords a lot of possibilities for dissimulation and playfulness!... He might even be a kind of phantast, besotted by roles he played, that he did such a good and famous job<br />at!... I could work in a few things that still obsess me!... T'would be a lot of fun!"SUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.com